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Saturday, January 8, 2011
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Lt. Col. Harry Smith (Rtd.), Battle of Long Tan
HARRY Smith is still leading the charge for the men he commanded at the Battle of Long Tan 44 years ago.
But this time it will be in the Federal Court of Australia rather than a battlefield in Vietnam.
The retired Australian Army commander today announced he would pursue court action in the new year to have the efforts of 11 diggers, who fought in the 1966 battle, officially recognised with medals and commendations.
Lieutenant Colonel Smith, who previously vowed to maintain the fight for his men “until they put me in a box”, is scathing of the way medals were awarded during the Vietnam War.
“The ugly truth about Long Tan, and in fact the entire Vietnam War over a decade, is that senior officers took most of the awards at the expense of soldiers who fought in action,” he said in a statement.
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“Many more went to major-generals, brigadiers, colonels and lieutenant colonels far from the action.”
The federal government has refused to award more medals and commendations for those who took part in the battle, saying that would amount to “excessive recognition”.
The government acted on a review by the Defence Honours and Awards Tribunal in arriving at its decision.
Colonel Smith claims the tribunal's review was “seriously flawed”.
The Battle of Long Tan in 1966 was Australia's first significant engagement of the Vietnam War.
It is considered the defining event of Australia's experience in the war, and the anniversary of the battle - August 18 - is recognised each year by veterans.
Outnumbered by more than 10 to one, 108 Australian and New Zealand troops led by Colonel Smith held their position against 2500 enemy troops for three hours in a rubber plantation deluged by monsoonal rains.
Eighteen Australian soldiers died and 21 were wounded.
But controversy over bravery medals has long dogged the memory of the battle.
Colonel Smith belatedly was awarded a Star of Gallantry for his role, having been downgraded from a Distinguished Service Order in 1966.
His list of soldiers deserving of awards for gallantry was slashed by senior officers.
In 1996, Colonel Smith launched a campaign to gain recognition for all the soldiers on his list when the awards were denied at a formal review in 1998, which approved 81 other Vietnam War awards.
The pending class action is in support of the final 11 men “left out in the cold” and Colonel Smith is confident the court will look favourably on the action.
“We wanted to appeal in 2009 but couldn't because the tribunal wasn't a statutory body under the Defence Act,” he said.
Now the tribunal has a new status which has opened its review to legal scrutiny.
The Federal Court will hear new evidence that includes claims of an invalid scale of awards introduced by Canberra just prior to the Long Tan battle, but not approved by British authorities until 1968.
It will be claimed also that Australian military chiefs at the time falsified statements about the dismissal or downgrading of half the awards Colonel Smith recommended for his soldiers.
At least three of the soldiers covered by the court action are dead, including one - Gordon Sharp - who died at Long Tan.
AAP
Sunday, December 19, 2010
Finally Recognition for Long Tan Soldiers
Saturday, September 1, 2007
Long Tan Commemorative Dinner at Kyneton
The picture on the left was taken at the dinner on Friday night of the 17 August 2007. Dave Sabben was the guest speaker. Dave was the 12 Platoon Commander of 'D' Company 6RAR at the Battle of Long Tan that occurred on Thursday 18 August 1968 in South Vietnam. It was an important battle for Australia because if 'D' company, under the command of then Major Harry Smith, had not stood firm against odds of twenty to one the Australian Task Force base at Nui Dat in Phuoc Tuy Province would surely have been wiped out. That would have been disastrous for Australia.
Dave Sabben is signing a copy of his book for former Victorian State Labor MP Bruce Mildenhall. The book is titled "Through Enemy Eyes" and is an book of "faction" about the battle as seen by the enemy. The book is published by Allen and Unwin and is available in most bookshops.
Dave spoke about the battle after dinner. Dave's account of the battle is different to the official one at the Australian War Memorial. The official account says that 'D' Company was ambushed. Dave said that was not the case and gave a list of reasons why it was not an ambush. The official story was one made up by the Australian Military Command to protect politicians and generals at the time that had made several bad decisions. The talk covered the military and political aspects of the battle and the aftermath. Dave took all questions. Ninety percent of people atending the dinner were Vietnam veterans.
Wednesday, August 8, 2007
A Drive to Sale in Gippsland
The meeting was for sub-branch presidents of the Victorian Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia. We are trying to arrive at plan for the future of the organization. It's difficult to get a bunch of veterans to agree about anything. They're like economists, if you have ten together you will have ten different opinions. The organization has been around for 25 years and was formed so veterans could mutually support each other. The Australian returned and Services League couldn't do anything for us after the divisive Vietnam War ended in 1975. In fact they were hopeless and more a part of the problem than the solution.
I stayed overnight in Sale and attended the Victorians Vietnam Veterans State Congress. I found Sale to be a very clean and tidy and a friendly country town. The Council meeting ended about 3:00 pm and I departed for the long drive home. The weather was overcast but not raining. The road is reasonably good and I had a good run and was home by 6:45 pm. On my way home I thought to myself that we have not learnt much in 4 000 years as we are still having wars across the world. There must be money in war otherwise we wouldn't do it.
Tomorrow I will be selling badges to raise money for the welfare of Vietnam veterans. The Australian public get behind us and we use the money to help veterans in need. The picture at the top of this post is this year's Long Tan Cross badge. We get a donation of five dollars each for them. The Australian Government looks after us well but the little extra helps us to do a better job.